Welcome to The ESG Activists, a Teamspirit podcast series in which we hear from those bridging the ESG delivery gap. With big commitments no longer enough, in each episode we talk with an ESG gamechanger from a variety of asset classes, to reveal how they are delivering across the E, the S and the G in this, the decisive decade. 

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Kicking off the series, in our first podcast __Ketan Patel, Fund Manager, Edentree__ lifts the lid on making ESG tangible.  Hear his views on why Science Based Targets are more important than offsetting; why we can’t rely wholly on ESG ratings; how Footprints are a great engagement point and why now is a watershed moment for the Energy sector and the UK Government

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If you’d like to understand more about how to create credible ESG communications contact us at hello@teamspirit.co.uk


Listen to __Tom Matthews, Sustainable Investments Senior Manager, J O Hambro Capital Management__ on the need for investors to look holistically at the data and at forward looking initiatives.  In this, our third episode of the ESG Activists podcast series, Tom explains why companies need to be clear on the impact to be made, which metric is important and to have a strong narrative around it.

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Below are the previous podcast episodes from the series: 

Episode 1: Ketan Patel, Fund Manager, EdenTree. Listen [here](https://www.teamspirit.uk.com/news-and-views/stand-and-deliver-the-esg-activists-podcast-series) 

Episode 2: Chris Gardner, Joint CEO, Atelier. Listen [here ](https://www.teamspirit.uk.com/news-and-views/stand-and-deliver-the-esg-activists-podcast-series-episode-2)  

If you’d like to understand more about how to create credible ESG communications contact us at hello@teamspirit.co.uk

Following the invasion, investment houses are now having to rethink the detail of their ESG policies. Research from consultancy BFinance reveals that as many as 4 in 10 fund managers are now in the process of updating their approaches – and investor outcomes. Especially in the arms and energy sectors.

While negatively screened funds often either limit or wholly prohibit the inclusion of arms, a militarily ambitious Russia whose end-game is still not clear has meant governments are already talking up their need to increased military budgets in response to the threat. This, in turn, is necessitating the potential return of arms manufacturers to funds. A weak defence sector that is increasingly unable to raise capital on the markets to both manufacture and invest in R&D is, after all, in no one’s interest.

Energy providers are also coming under the spotlight. Some because of their origins and connections with Russia – and others because, with Ukrainian and Russian oil supplies either arrested or under threat, ESG fund policies may now need to be tweaked as alternatives are analysed. Russian energy companies such as Gazprom, NK Rosneft and NK Lukoil were all included in ESG holdings as late as March this year.

Human rights is a third area where ESG criteria will need to be reviewed. It was recently revealed that over £7.2bn of investments defined as ‘socially conscious’ were tied up in Russia prior to the invasion (Bloomberg).

In many ways, perhaps changes such as these are inevitable.  Not because the conflict could have been foreseen, but because it is just an example of how ESG will need to flex intelligently over time to take on board significant social, political and corporate changes.


In our second ESG Activist podcast, __Chris Gardner, Joint CEO, [Atelier](https://acp.co.uk/)__ reveals how he has focused the business proposition to realise ESG ambition.  Listen to: why collaboration and empirical evidence through 3rd party assurance is vital; the need to be honest about what can be committed to and get it done and to realise that if you’re going to do it properly, it’s going to hurt.

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Below are the previous podcast episodes from the series: 

Episode 1: Ketan Patel, Fund Manager, EdenTree. Listen [here](https://www.teamspirit.uk.com/news-and-views/stand-and-deliver-the-esg-activists-podcast-series) 

If you’d like to understand more about how to create credible ESG communications contact us at [hello@teamspirit.co.uk](mailto:hello@teamspirit.co.uk)

Stand and deliver. The ESG Activists Podcast Series: Episode 2

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